Eric’s post:
Great news: I have the solution to clear out your repetitive news-feed and support your valiant stance on federal gun control!
But first, some context:
I woke up this morning and made a new federal law. Starting tomorrow: every day, every citizen will pay me $1. It’s a pretty sweet law. My mind is buzzing, thinking of all I can do with my imminent wealth.
What’s that you say? You don’t think the law is legitimate? You don’t plan to follow it? I wonder why…
You’re right, of course, the “law” I made is not a law at all. It has no legitimacy. But why? Your answer is simple: I’m not a federal lawmaker. ‘Of course I am’, I tell you, ‘I’m the only federal lawmaker in the country!’
So who is right? What gives someone the legitimate right to make a rule that you, as an educated, free, adult are compelled to follow? Your collective shout resounds: ‘Elections! We vote our lawmakers in by election.’
You’ve proven my point. I held an election in my bedroom last night. I was elected to office with 100% of the 1 vote registered. (My dog, Chief, abstained from voting). So, I tell you, I am your elected lawmaker. Yet for some reason you I still haven’t convinced you to start your daily deposit…
Ok, enough. In a hotly contested debate over lawmaking, we are asking lawmakers to act (or not) – legitimate lawmakers. What gives the laws they enact legitimate force (over a ranting lunatic’s dictates) is the nation’s prime social contract: The Constitution. Stay with me gun-control proponents…
If you want a rule put in place for everyone in the country to follow, it must be done according to the constitution we collectively agree to live by every day we retain our citizenship. This simple fact is what makes this country ‘free.’ The 2nd Amendment is part of this constitution – specifically, The Bill of Rights – the part the guarantees restrictions on what the federal government is allowed to impose on citizens. (Give it a read sometime!). This specific amendment says, in part, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” This means any federal law that restricts the ability to possess weapons is not legitimate (Seriously anti-gunners, STAY WITH ME).
The framers of the Constitution of the United States were not ignorant. They created a forward-looking document that would stay relevant even as society evolved (yes even for many hundreds of years). They did this by considering history, and building in specific safeguards against recurring atrocities against human rights perpetrated by various tyrannical governments over time. They also understood they couldn’t predict the future. So they built another handy clause “trump card” into document. The Bill of Rights is designed to protect individual freedoms, but it is a different piece that keeps the constitution relevant: We can amend the constitution (check out Article V). And so …
HERE IS THE SOLUTION: Propose an amendment to the constitution to strike (or re-write) the 2nd Amendment. If it passes, it will open the floodgates for legitimate federal gun control laws. Without this simple step, any laws that pass infringing the people’s right to keep and bear arms has no more legitimacy that what I jot down on a napkin in the comfort of my own home – and for the same reason. What about those that support Gun-Owners rights? What about those who think the 2nd Amendment is perfect? The solution is the same. Propose an amendment that strikes the amendment. Surely, there is no way such an uproarious notion will ever pass the stringent approval process. And when The 2nd Amendment is ultimately upheld, its legitimacy will be reinforced…no longer as a 200+ year old notion from a different world with different technology, but as – effectively – the most recent addition to the constitution, therefore the most relevant. Either way, the debate is over.
…at least for a couple hundred years.
Duke’s Response:
The Beginning of the Gun Control Debate?
I want to start by thanking Eric for reminding us about the fundamental value and function of a constitution and also for encouraging democratic participation to adjust it according to the needs and will of the people. In my view, however, he has oversimplified the power of constitutional amendments or dictates – not just in regards to the 2nd amendment, but all amendments in general. Before I elaborate on that main argument I’d also like to make a few other observations. Eric stated, “The framers of the Constitution were not ignorant” and they implemented “specific safeguards against recurring atrocities against human rights perpetrated by various tyrannical governments over time.” I think it is important to address this type of language because often in American society we a presented with the notion that the founding fathers were extremely wise, defenders of liberty, and unanimous in voice in creating a seemingly infallible constitution. Without going into some sort of detailed, and boring, analysis I feel obligated to point out that they had wide ranging views on the role of government and liberty and that the constitution represented a compromise of some of these (with the Bill of Rights being an afterthought) and furthermore their view “human rights” left out more than half the human population (African Americans, Native Americans, women, etc). With this in mind, Eric is right, thank goodness we can amend the Constitution.
To restate Eric’s position, “any federal law that restricts the ability of citizens to possess weapons is not legitimate” because the amendment states the “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Before addressing the gun control issue, I would like to address his logic by looking to some of the other Constitutional amendments. In the first amendment it states, “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.” So according to Eric’s logic any federal law that restricts the ability of citizens to speak freely is not legitimate. But according to wikipedia, “common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, public security, public order, public nuisance, campaign finance reform and oppression.” So what gives? Obviously any laws that have been passed violate the Constitution, right?
A classic example of limitations on freedom of speech are yelling “Fire!” in a crowded movie theater. This has been made against the law because the desire to protect individuals from the threat of stampede and chaos (i.e. threat of bodily injury) is greater than the freedom for a person to exclaim whatever they want. It doesn’t mean free speech isn’t valued – it simply means that it must be used responsibly.
Let’s look to another example that uses stronger language than “shall not abridge” or even “shall not infringe”. The eighth amendment states, “Excessive bail shall not be required.” Well that seems pretty cut and dry. Why is then that in reading the news we often hear of bail being set in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, or sometimes being completely denied? Surely this is violation of the Constitution!? We know that bail is sometimes (but not always) denied for individuals who are on trial for violent crimes such a murder. If we granted such individuals bail there is a chance they might pose a risk to the general population, so we allow judges to have discretion to prevent the possibility of harm to others. And this is before they have been proven guilty.
Clearly our Constitution is not operationalized or practiced in such a black and white fashion as Eric has described. The pragmatic purpose of protecting and promoting the general welfare seems to trump the exact language of our Bill of Rights. Looking to the right to bear arms, there are obvious reasons why this right or privilege might be restricted in certain circumstances to prevent harm to others. For example, one could argue that it might be within the responsibility of the government to ensure that certain individuals, such as violent criminals, should not have easy access to weapons. An argument might also be made for restricting individuals who are psychologically unstable – for example schizophrenics who see imaginary threats and experience paranoia- from purchasing guns. The instances seem analogous to the reasons we would deny someone bail.
What about the type and quantity of arms one has the right to purchase or accumulate? What are arms any way? Is it a knife? Guns and ammunition? A rocket launcher? A nuclear missile? The modern dialogue centers around guns, but why are any other forms of weapons out of the question? If the framers of the Constitution were concerned about guns to protect from the government because that was type of weapons the government used – shouldn’t citizens be entitled to acquire tanks, laser guided missiles, etc. if they realistically want to be protected from the threat of government tyranny? I think the rational response from most Americans is that they do not believe the average citizen should have access to powerful and dangerous weapons. If someone wants a rifle for hunting or a handgun for personal protection, sure, assuming you’re not a lunatic and have a sense of responsibility regarding safe storage, go for it. But analogous to our limitations of speech not to go around shouting inciteful or profane things, does your neighbor really need a dozen automatic rifles and 12,000 rounds of ammunition?
Please note that I’m asking rhetorical questions designed to have us consider the ‘gray’ areas that the Constitution does not directly address. To this point I have not actually argued for or against the merit of any of the amendments I discussed. Eric has argued that a Constitutional amendment is the only way implement gun control law. If that is the case, we will need many many constitutional amendments to deal with other areas of the constitution that do not prescribe clear guidance.
Eric’s final word:
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU:
While I put no more weight into the question of how many weapons (and of what type) are ‘sufficient’ than I do if you replace ‘guns’ with ‘cars’ (which incidentally can also kill people), I agree we could all use a little clarity and ask, if it were up to you, how would you rephrase the 2nd Amendment to preserve liberty and improve safety? And remember, we are looking for answers that will stay relevant for at least 200 years so I can go back to watching videos of kittens being adorable. Can’t wait to see what you come up with!